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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16503</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is I gave you a link to a reputable source, one that even the left would accept. You gave me info from a site that is way over the edge.

Election 2000 happened in, well, 2000. And Bush won. Subject closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is I gave you a link to a reputable source, one that even the left would accept. You gave me info from a site that is way over the edge.</p>
<p>Election 2000 happened in, well, 2000. And Bush won. Subject closed.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16502</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check out this article from NPR

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8922947</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out this article from NPR</p>
<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8922947" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8922947</a></p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16501</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple truth is you cant count votes that were never cast and the fact that they were not cast because of fraud tells teh whole truth as to who should have won the 2000 election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple truth is you cant count votes that were never cast and the fact that they were not cast because of fraud tells teh whole truth as to who should have won the 2000 election.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16500</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are saying that the NAACP and Florida never had this case, or that tens of thousands of voters were not stricken from the rolls? If it's not reported in the mainstream media it never happened is that it? How about Diebold admitting the machines malfuntioned and gave Bush 16000 votes in a county with only 600 people? The machines and teh voter rolls were both screwed up an dyou can sit there and say it was a fair election and the true winner prevailed? How about the fact that thousands of voters were pulled due to thier criminal convictions that never happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are saying that the NAACP and Florida never had this case, or that tens of thousands of voters were not stricken from the rolls? If it&#8217;s not reported in the mainstream media it never happened is that it? How about Diebold admitting the machines malfuntioned and gave Bush 16000 votes in a county with only 600 people? The machines and teh voter rolls were both screwed up an dyou can sit there and say it was a fair election and the true winner prevailed? How about the fact that thousands of voters were pulled due to thier criminal convictions that never happened?</p>
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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16499</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob:

I gave you a link to a PBS site (along with an excerpt) and you give me something from a left-wing propaganda site? Run by the same Marc Ash that claims Wellstone was murdered?

Hell, I can post just about anything, give it some silly-ass name like "truthout" and then, what, I'm a valid source?

Bottom line: USA Today and Miami Herald did the count anyway. Bush still won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob:</p>
<p>I gave you a link to a PBS site (along with an excerpt) and you give me something from a left-wing propaganda site? Run by the same Marc Ash that claims Wellstone was murdered?</p>
<p>Hell, I can post just about anything, give it some silly-ass name like &#8220;truthout&#8221; and then, what, I&#8217;m a valid source?</p>
<p>Bottom line: USA Today and Miami Herald did the count anyway. Bush still won.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16498</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way can anyone here tell me who a good "investigative" reporter is? I ask this question on other conservative sites and they always give me some talking head name. I am truely interested in a conservative reporter I can see some work from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way can anyone here tell me who a good &#8220;investigative&#8221; reporter is? I ask this question on other conservative sites and they always give me some talking head name. I am truely interested in a conservative reporter I can see some work from.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16497</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE READ



(*Editors Note &#124; Quietly this decision to settle with the NAACP signals an admission by the State of Florida, and those counties named as codefendants that wide spread disenfranchisement of Black voters was prevalent during the 2000 election. The same charges that were leveled by both African American residents of Florida and by the Gore campaign. Based on the narrow margin of victory state officials claim George W. Bush enjoyed, this settlement casts further doubt on the validity of those results. The original complaint filed by NAACP addressed conditions effecting hundreds of thousands of Black Florida voters state wide a group that voted in favor of Al Gore by a 93% margin. There is no clear indication that any meaningful steps have been taken to protect the rights of African American voters in the state of Florida. George W. Bush remains in control of the White House today. -- ma)

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Florida Faces 2000 Election Fraud, Will Settle With NAACP
By Catherine Wilson
Associated Press &#124; Boston Globe

Tuesday, 27 August, 2002

MIAMI (AP) The NAACP's lawsuit over Florida's disputed 2000 presidential election appears headed for a close as the state and two counties the only remaining defendants have agreed to a settlement, attorneys said Tuesday.

Joe Klock, an attorney for the state, told U.S. District Judge Alan Gold that all parties promised to file final papers by Friday for approval. Attorneys would not discuss terms of the settlement.

The class-action lawsuit filed by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and other civil rights groups argued voters were disenfranchised during the on Nov. 7, 2000 election; it included allegations that blacks were kept from voting in some counties.

The state and Orange and Hillsborough counties were the only holdouts in the lawsuit. Miami-Dade, Broward, Leon, Volusia and Duval counties settled earlier rather than face trial.

Provisions of those settlements included sweeping modifications to voter registration, voter-roll maintenance and polling practices. They also required counties to improve election day communications between precincts and election headquarters and in some cases guaranteed foreign language-speaking workers would be at the polls to assist voters.

After a legal battle that reached the U.S. Supreme Court, President Bush's 537-vote margin over Al Gore in Florida swung the outcome for the presidency.

The state had argued the Legislature adequately addressed problems by standardizing recount rules, eliminating punch card voting systems and allowing provisional balloting. But plaintiffs argued Florida had still not done enough to avoid wrongfully turn away voters.

A settlement would eliminate the likelihood of unflattering headlines from a trial projected to last through parts of Gov. Jeb Bush's re-election campaign.

With new laws and new voting equipment in place, the Sept. 10 primary will be the first big test of Florida's updated election machinery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE READ</p>
<p>(*Editors Note | Quietly this decision to settle with the NAACP signals an admission by the State of Florida, and those counties named as codefendants that wide spread disenfranchisement of Black voters was prevalent during the 2000 election. The same charges that were leveled by both African American residents of Florida and by the Gore campaign. Based on the narrow margin of victory state officials claim George W. Bush enjoyed, this settlement casts further doubt on the validity of those results. The original complaint filed by NAACP addressed conditions effecting hundreds of thousands of Black Florida voters state wide a group that voted in favor of Al Gore by a 93% margin. There is no clear indication that any meaningful steps have been taken to protect the rights of African American voters in the state of Florida. George W. Bush remains in control of the White House today. &#8212; ma)</p>
<p>Go To Original</p>
<p>Florida Faces 2000 Election Fraud, Will Settle With NAACP<br />
By Catherine Wilson<br />
Associated Press | Boston Globe</p>
<p>Tuesday, 27 August, 2002</p>
<p>MIAMI (AP) The NAACP&#8217;s lawsuit over Florida&#8217;s disputed 2000 presidential election appears headed for a close as the state and two counties the only remaining defendants have agreed to a settlement, attorneys said Tuesday.</p>
<p>Joe Klock, an attorney for the state, told U.S. District Judge Alan Gold that all parties promised to file final papers by Friday for approval. Attorneys would not discuss terms of the settlement.</p>
<p>The class-action lawsuit filed by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and other civil rights groups argued voters were disenfranchised during the on Nov. 7, 2000 election; it included allegations that blacks were kept from voting in some counties.</p>
<p>The state and Orange and Hillsborough counties were the only holdouts in the lawsuit. Miami-Dade, Broward, Leon, Volusia and Duval counties settled earlier rather than face trial.</p>
<p>Provisions of those settlements included sweeping modifications to voter registration, voter-roll maintenance and polling practices. They also required counties to improve election day communications between precincts and election headquarters and in some cases guaranteed foreign language-speaking workers would be at the polls to assist voters.</p>
<p>After a legal battle that reached the U.S. Supreme Court, President Bush&#8217;s 537-vote margin over Al Gore in Florida swung the outcome for the presidency.</p>
<p>The state had argued the Legislature adequately addressed problems by standardizing recount rules, eliminating punch card voting systems and allowing provisional balloting. But plaintiffs argued Florida had still not done enough to avoid wrongfully turn away voters.</p>
<p>A settlement would eliminate the likelihood of unflattering headlines from a trial projected to last through parts of Gov. Jeb Bush&#8217;s re-election campaign.</p>
<p>With new laws and new voting equipment in place, the Sept. 10 primary will be the first big test of Florida&#8217;s updated election machinery</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16496</link>
		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gore couldn't even win his home state! Rob has had too much kool-aid! Bush won, get over it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gore couldn&#8217;t even win his home state! Rob has had too much kool-aid! Bush won, get over it!</p>
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		<title>By: Basil</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16495</link>
		<dc:creator>Basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob:

The first result I found was from &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/media_watch/jan-june01/recount_4-3.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;PBS&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;In the first full study of Florida's ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled "undervotes" -- ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through -- to be counted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I assume most of the books you've been reading should have been on the fiction shelves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob:</p>
<p>The first result I found was from <a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/media_watch/jan-june01/recount_4-3.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.pbs.org');">PBS</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In the first full study of Florida&#8217;s ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled &#8220;undervotes&#8221; &#8212; ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through &#8212; to be counted.</p></blockquote>
<p>I assume most of the books you&#8217;ve been reading should have been on the fiction shelves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://basilsblog.net/2007/07/13/tell-me-again-why-this-war-is-illegal/#comment-16494</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" When a full recount was finally done by several newspapers in Florida, Bush still won."

What?

Do a simple search on Google and you have thousands of articles written on the fraud of 2000. There is plenty of proof that Jeb had a hand removing thousands of voters who were LEGAL and most were DOMOCRAT. Read a few books on the matter if you must but don’t try to tell me it was not a fraudulent election. You insult not only my intelligence but your own as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; When a full recount was finally done by several newspapers in Florida, Bush still won.&#8221;</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>Do a simple search on Google and you have thousands of articles written on the fraud of 2000. There is plenty of proof that Jeb had a hand removing thousands of voters who were LEGAL and most were DOMOCRAT. Read a few books on the matter if you must but don’t try to tell me it was not a fraudulent election. You insult not only my intelligence but your own as well.</p>
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